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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't understand some parts of this article te of Music Business &#124; Manuel Marino / Music, Arts, People, Ideas, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knows more about the state of the biz than this guy? (Personal hero of mine, however uncool that may be.)

http://www.youtube.com/lindseybuckingham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows more about the state of the biz than this guy? (Personal hero of mine, however uncool that may be.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/lindseybuckingham" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/lindseybuckingham</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ralph&lt;/strong&gt;

Wow, nice blog.</description>
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<p>Wow, nice blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>\"Hi, I just wanted to say what a great site this is, I came across your site while searching around on Google. Your post, The State of Music Business   has some good info! Thanks again, keep up the good work and have a great Tuesday!\".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>\&#8221;Hi, I just wanted to say what a great site this is, I came across your site while searching around on Google. Your post, The State of Music Business   has some good info! Thanks again, keep up the good work and have a great Tuesday!\&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Boulerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal Boulerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with Robert's vintage approach on vinyl records ! :-)

Another approach is the ability of a single human brain to record some memories, for instance songs, once or several times heard on TV or on the radio. Which means I have never ever bought (nor of course pirated / copied / owned) a single record copy from Queen's Freddie Mercury, while I really love his music !

To Larisa M. : some people sing in the shower, and they do not even record themselves, nor put the stuff on sale on the web either. :-)

To wild shovel
There are still some radio amateurs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_amateur

PS If you want me to follow up the discussion, please send me a private email at my email : Pascal.Boulerie@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with Robert&#8217;s vintage approach on vinyl records ! :-)</p>
<p>Another approach is the ability of a single human brain to record some memories, for instance songs, once or several times heard on TV or on the radio. Which means I have never ever bought (nor of course pirated / copied / owned) a single record copy from Queen&#8217;s Freddie Mercury, while I really love his music !</p>
<p>To Larisa M. : some people sing in the shower, and they do not even record themselves, nor put the stuff on sale on the web either. :-)</p>
<p>To wild shovel<br />
There are still some radio amateurs. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_amateur" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_amateur</a></p>
<p>PS If you want me to follow up the discussion, please send me a private email at my email : <a href="mailto:Pascal.Boulerie@gmail.com">Pascal.Boulerie@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't understand some parts of this article The State of Music Business, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: Kathem Al Saher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathem Al Saher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi...I Googled for saher, but found your page about The State of Music Business...and have to say thanks. nice read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;I Googled for saher, but found your page about The State of Music Business&#8230;and have to say thanks. nice read.</p>
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		<title>By: Pettit.tv - My Brain On Display For Others To See &#187; I love music and found a goldmine at manuelmarino.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pettit.tv - My Brain On Display For Others To See &#187; I love music and found a goldmine at manuelmarino.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The State of Music Business    The technology behind why RIAA and others behave that way and why it is all their fault. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mind Booster Noori</title>
		<link>http://manuelmarino.com/the-state-of-music-business/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Mind Booster Noori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The article has some good points, but it is ultimately wishful thinking to thing that DRM and internet filtering won’t work. DRM and internet filtering on a massive scale is coming — count on it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, it is wishful thinking to think that DRM will fail, but this kind of articles aim partially at telling people about DRM - because ultimately it is the mass consumers who will decide to adopt or reject DRM and such kind of restrictions. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is too much money involved here. And there is is nothing “technically impossible” about the concepts, either; the technology only needs to be installed in the right places.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can put the tech in any place you want, you can't stop "piracy traffic" since there's no way or method, nor is it feasable, to differenciate legal from illegal traffic. Yes, you can have an ISP block all .mp3 files, for instance, but it would block both legal and illegal sharing of mp3 files, it would piss off consumers and it wouldn't stop piracy.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And to do that, you simply need the right people in certain key positions of power to be properly motivated. Look at China: they filter the internet on a mind-boggling scale, both from a technical level and by strong-arming content providers. In one great example, China recently forced Google to voluntarily restrict the content of search results. Since all the other search providers had already capitulated, Google finally gave in as well, lest tbey blocked from the hugely lucrative Chinese market.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yet, to block "copyrighted work" you would have to block the Internet.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Already, you are seeing the results of their efforts: try searching youTube for old episodes of Saturday Night Live, Colbert Report, or any moderately famous TV show. I’m not saying it’s impossible to get this stuff; I am saying that it is no longer trivial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You're kidding me? Search for "saturday night live" + torrent on google...

Yes, this is a fight that will take a big number of years, and yes, things will get harder on the consumer side. That's why this kind of alert must be written and this issues talked about. How many of your friends know or care about DRM? When someone you know stumbled against DRM restricting them, how many of them weren't pissed off? Consumers getting pissed usually means that consumers fight against it - or simply not buying it. All those industries will attack their own consumers, yes, but all of them will suffer from it. Who will win? It really only depends on one side... Will you admit defeat and accept the loss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The article has some good points, but it is ultimately wishful thinking to thing that DRM and internet filtering won’t work. DRM and internet filtering on a massive scale is coming — count on it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, it is wishful thinking to think that DRM will fail, but this kind of articles aim partially at telling people about DRM - because ultimately it is the mass consumers who will decide to adopt or reject DRM and such kind of restrictions. </p>
<blockquote><p>There is too much money involved here. And there is is nothing “technically impossible” about the concepts, either; the technology only needs to be installed in the right places.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can put the tech in any place you want, you can&#8217;t stop &#8220;piracy traffic&#8221; since there&#8217;s no way or method, nor is it feasable, to differenciate legal from illegal traffic. Yes, you can have an ISP block all .mp3 files, for instance, but it would block both legal and illegal sharing of mp3 files, it would piss off consumers and it wouldn&#8217;t stop piracy.</p>
<blockquote><p>And to do that, you simply need the right people in certain key positions of power to be properly motivated. Look at China: they filter the internet on a mind-boggling scale, both from a technical level and by strong-arming content providers. In one great example, China recently forced Google to voluntarily restrict the content of search results. Since all the other search providers had already capitulated, Google finally gave in as well, lest tbey blocked from the hugely lucrative Chinese market.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet, to block &#8220;copyrighted work&#8221; you would have to block the Internet.</p>
<blockquote><p>Already, you are seeing the results of their efforts: try searching youTube for old episodes of Saturday Night Live, Colbert Report, or any moderately famous TV show. I’m not saying it’s impossible to get this stuff; I am saying that it is no longer trivial.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re kidding me? Search for &#8220;saturday night live&#8221; + torrent on google&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, this is a fight that will take a big number of years, and yes, things will get harder on the consumer side. That&#8217;s why this kind of alert must be written and this issues talked about. How many of your friends know or care about DRM? When someone you know stumbled against DRM restricting them, how many of them weren&#8217;t pissed off? Consumers getting pissed usually means that consumers fight against it - or simply not buying it. All those industries will attack their own consumers, yes, but all of them will suffer from it. Who will win? It really only depends on one side&#8230; Will you admit defeat and accept the loss?</p>
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		<title>By: The State of music business &#171; From SAP to Enterprise Web 2.0 (and into Virtual Reality)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The State of music business &#171; From SAP to Enterprise Web 2.0 (and into Virtual Reality)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wild shovel</title>
		<link>http://manuelmarino.com/the-state-of-music-business/#comment-265</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article has some good points, but it is ultimately wishful thinking to thing that DRM and internet filtering won't work.  DRM and internet filtering on a massive scale is coming -- count on it.  There is too much money involved here.  And there is is nothing "technically impossible" about the concepts, either; the technology only needs to be installed in the right places.  

And to do that, you simply need the right people in certain key positions of power to be properly motivated.  Look at China: they filter the internet on a mind-boggling scale, both from a technical level and by strong-arming content providers. In one great example, China recently forced Google to voluntarily restrict the content of search results.  Since all the other search providers had already capitulated, Google finally gave in as well, lest tbey blocked from the hugely lucrative Chinese market.

In western countries, such motivation is simply a matter of greasing the right palms.  

Back in the dawn of the radio age, radio was like the internet is now.  It wasn't a one way medium -- ANYONE could broadcast, all you needed was a simple transmitter.  Once someone realized how money could made by delivering content and advertisements over the airwaves, then the bigger broadcasters began to slowly buy out the smaller ones.  Eventually, the biggest broadcasters banded together, and lobbied Congress for restrict who could broadcast, thereby shutting out the remaining little guys.  

Money changes everything.

The article is right about how the record industry wasn't at all prepared, and is currently in upheaval.  That is true, but the television and film industry is next up, and they are much better prepared.  Already, you are seeing the results of their efforts: try searching youTube for old episodes of Saturday Night Live, Colbert Report, or any moderately famous TV show.  I'm not saying it's impossible to get this stuff; I am saying that it is no longer trivial.  

And they are just getting started.  

And even if the television and film industry isn't successful, next in line to take up the fight will be the massive book publishing industry, when eBooks take off. 

Don't think eBooks will ever take off?  Heard of Amazon's Kindle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article has some good points, but it is ultimately wishful thinking to thing that DRM and internet filtering won&#8217;t work.  DRM and internet filtering on a massive scale is coming &#8212; count on it.  There is too much money involved here.  And there is is nothing &#8220;technically impossible&#8221; about the concepts, either; the technology only needs to be installed in the right places.  </p>
<p>And to do that, you simply need the right people in certain key positions of power to be properly motivated.  Look at China: they filter the internet on a mind-boggling scale, both from a technical level and by strong-arming content providers. In one great example, China recently forced Google to voluntarily restrict the content of search results.  Since all the other search providers had already capitulated, Google finally gave in as well, lest tbey blocked from the hugely lucrative Chinese market.</p>
<p>In western countries, such motivation is simply a matter of greasing the right palms.  </p>
<p>Back in the dawn of the radio age, radio was like the internet is now.  It wasn&#8217;t a one way medium &#8212; ANYONE could broadcast, all you needed was a simple transmitter.  Once someone realized how money could made by delivering content and advertisements over the airwaves, then the bigger broadcasters began to slowly buy out the smaller ones.  Eventually, the biggest broadcasters banded together, and lobbied Congress for restrict who could broadcast, thereby shutting out the remaining little guys.  </p>
<p>Money changes everything.</p>
<p>The article is right about how the record industry wasn&#8217;t at all prepared, and is currently in upheaval.  That is true, but the television and film industry is next up, and they are much better prepared.  Already, you are seeing the results of their efforts: try searching youTube for old episodes of Saturday Night Live, Colbert Report, or any moderately famous TV show.  I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s impossible to get this stuff; I am saying that it is no longer trivial.  </p>
<p>And they are just getting started.  </p>
<p>And even if the television and film industry isn&#8217;t successful, next in line to take up the fight will be the massive book publishing industry, when eBooks take off. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think eBooks will ever take off?  Heard of Amazon&#8217;s Kindle?</p>
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		<title>By: Larisa M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larisa M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 06:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the independents have already won.  Look at CDBaby - tons and tons of people recording their CD's in their living rooms and putting it up for sale on the web.  For the first time, the musicians are in control of the means of distribution.  The record companies are realizing this, and panicking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the independents have already won.  Look at CDBaby - tons and tons of people recording their CD&#8217;s in their living rooms and putting it up for sale on the web.  For the first time, the musicians are in control of the means of distribution.  The record companies are realizing this, and panicking.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit; the massiveness of information (aspects, facts and ideas) in this post should have its own definition of magnitude. 

&lt;em&gt;The question here is: who’s going to win? Will they manage to regain control by restricting even more artists and music lovers? Or will artists and music lovers redifine the music business?&lt;/em&gt;

The winner is hard to just calculate; the problem here is the popular music will have its audience, (this group made of a bunch of children) it wasn’t that long time ago I did bought list-pop music, Aqua’s first and Second album or the Various Artist – something something (got it from my parents because that was on my wish-list)) and that unfortunately will always sell, but is this just a question of time? I wasn’t aware of internet in my childhood, but dose this apply for the 5-15 years old girl who is dancing to Britney in the living room, in front of MTV and runs to the parents, smiles and wants a stereo that can play Britney’s music meanwhile her own voice is getting recorded? How many of you parents here, actually will actually download the music? Few kids will just forget asking why the cover isn’t just as pretty as it is on TV.

The outcome of the situation however it will change into by the costumers force or not, or simply transform to, will leave (actually allow) any form of the musically-talented to step forward in this could of icons for the industry of music as it is (shampoo bottles alike, production wise) and create their own market. That is at least my theory at this very moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit; the massiveness of information (aspects, facts and ideas) in this post should have its own definition of magnitude. </p>
<p><em>The question here is: who’s going to win? Will they manage to regain control by restricting even more artists and music lovers? Or will artists and music lovers redifine the music business?</em></p>
<p>The winner is hard to just calculate; the problem here is the popular music will have its audience, (this group made of a bunch of children) it wasn’t that long time ago I did bought list-pop music, Aqua’s first and Second album or the Various Artist – something something (got it from my parents because that was on my wish-list)) and that unfortunately will always sell, but is this just a question of time? I wasn’t aware of internet in my childhood, but dose this apply for the 5-15 years old girl who is dancing to Britney in the living room, in front of MTV and runs to the parents, smiles and wants a stereo that can play Britney’s music meanwhile her own voice is getting recorded? How many of you parents here, actually will actually download the music? Few kids will just forget asking why the cover isn’t just as pretty as it is on TV.</p>
<p>The outcome of the situation however it will change into by the costumers force or not, or simply transform to, will leave (actually allow) any form of the musically-talented to step forward in this could of icons for the industry of music as it is (shampoo bottles alike, production wise) and create their own market. That is at least my theory at this very moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Avo Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avo Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article...The record labels seem to be feeling the same impact from Web 2.0 as the content/broadcast industry.  Some of the other responses have touched on this phenomenon but it is best captured in an article Chris Anderson wrote in the October 2004 12.10 issue of Wired Magazine which later became a book "The Long Tail - Why the Future of Business is Selling Less of More". The theory of the Long Tail according to Chris Anderson "is that our culture and economy is increasingly shifting away from a focus on a relatively small number of "hits" (mainstream products and markets) at the head of the demand curve and toward a huge number of niches in the tail." 

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html


The long tail is made possible by the internet, our ability to find things ourselves, affordable technology which enables User Generated Music as much as it helps User Generated Video (UGV), and the aggregators and indexers which enables UGM/UGV to be found.

What the record labels and broadcast industry have been doing is deciding which hit's they should push, they basically either produced the content or in the case of music went out and found it for you.  Some of it was genuinely good and some was arguably  made popular by throwing lots of money into marketing.

Now these same companies are scrambling to control or profit from UGM and UGV in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article&#8230;The record labels seem to be feeling the same impact from Web 2.0 as the content/broadcast industry.  Some of the other responses have touched on this phenomenon but it is best captured in an article Chris Anderson wrote in the October 2004 12.10 issue of Wired Magazine which later became a book &#8220;The Long Tail - Why the Future of Business is Selling Less of More&#8221;. The theory of the Long Tail according to Chris Anderson &#8220;is that our culture and economy is increasingly shifting away from a focus on a relatively small number of &#8220;hits&#8221; (mainstream products and markets) at the head of the demand curve and toward a huge number of niches in the tail.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html</a></p>
<p>The long tail is made possible by the internet, our ability to find things ourselves, affordable technology which enables User Generated Music as much as it helps User Generated Video (UGV), and the aggregators and indexers which enables UGM/UGV to be found.</p>
<p>What the record labels and broadcast industry have been doing is deciding which hit&#8217;s they should push, they basically either produced the content or in the case of music went out and found it for you.  Some of it was genuinely good and some was arguably  made popular by throwing lots of money into marketing.</p>
<p>Now these same companies are scrambling to control or profit from UGM and UGV in some way.</p>
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